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Saturday, December 18, 2004
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I am looking for some drive imaging software that I can use to take a snap-shot of both my Windows 2003 server and my XP Pro clients. After looking over the online specs for both True Image and Ghost, I am not exactly clear if taking an image of Windows 2003 is supported (XP is) in both products WITHOUT upgrading to the "Enterprise-class" version of both products.

In short, I want to do manual images of both Windows 2003 and XP Pro. I am not at this point looking for live/incremental snap shots of Windows 2003. Will the entry level versions of True Image and/or Ghost do this job? Any practical experiences to share on the usage of one or both?

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12/18/2004 12:53 PM Eastern Standard Time  |  Comments [11]  |  Disclaimer  |  Permalink   
Sunday, May 8, 2005 12:06:41 AM (Eastern Daylight Time, UTC-04:00)
As a user of Norton Ghost for more than 6 months now, I think it is capable of doing what you want. It just dumps all tha partition (or drive) contents to a file, without ever looking inside them, it doesn't matter to Ghost what's in the drive or partition. It can create images of NTFS and FAT partitions easily and it's also capable of dumping any other non-supported file system by simply doing a sector by sector dump. In this case, however, the image will be reaaly big, as it will put all the partition's free space onto the image. When it's dumping supported FS like FAT or NTFS it copies just the files, and this way it can generate smaller images.
Antonio
Sunday, May 8, 2005 12:06:41 AM (Eastern Daylight Time, UTC-04:00)
Imaging Server2003 with Norton Ghost is unsupported. Supposedly you can get it to work with some switches that are published on the .NET but Norton themselves indicate you should be using another product they offer to do it instead of Ghost.
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<br>TrueImage Server works but the base product will refuse to image a Server 2003 install. They have taken the same approach as backup vendors of yore and decided to sell the same product for more money since you paid more money for the platform it runs on...
Chris Kinsman
Sunday, May 8, 2005 12:06:41 AM (Eastern Daylight Time, UTC-04:00)
...and last I checked you were running SBS not Windows 2003 server ;-)
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<br>Don't forget the snapshots that the machine itself does on those shared folders.
Susan Bradley
Sunday, May 8, 2005 12:06:41 AM (Eastern Daylight Time, UTC-04:00)
Thanks Guys.. Yes Susan, I am indeed running SBS 2003 :-)
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<br>In fact my data drive on the machine is RAID 1 and I have a hard drive in an external USB 2.0 drive enclosure to which I am doing the back ups.
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<br>From the info that Chris provided and the sticker shock that I am experiencing in looking at the Server version of these products, I think I'll stick with a combination of the built in SBS Backup for the SBS Server and True Image for the XP Pro workstations (Antonio, I am picking True Image simply because it is cheaper than Ghost with relatively the same capability)
Anil John
Sunday, May 8, 2005 12:06:41 AM (Eastern Daylight Time, UTC-04:00)
ASR combined with good NTBackup routines would probably be sufficient enough to handle what you need. It may not be a &quot;restore and forget&quot; operation that a typical Norton Ghost solution but it does beat the price: free.
Jeremy
Sunday, May 8, 2005 12:06:41 AM (Eastern Daylight Time, UTC-04:00)
Hi Anil!
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<br>I didn't know True Image, if you say so, I'll take a look at it.
<br>The reason I use Ghost is simply because it came with my copy of Norton SystemWorks! :)
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<br>Jeremy, about your comment on price, there's an open source program that does exactly the same thing as Ghost and the price is also free!
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<br>The name is Partition Image, the web site is <a target="_new" href="http://www.partimage.org/">http://www.partimage.org/</a> and you can see a short article with some helpful hints about using it here: <a target="_new" href="http://dfarq.homeip.net/article/381">http://dfarq.homeip.net/article/381</a>
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<br>It runs on Linux, and there's a brazilian distro the has it and runs on a Live CD. It's in portuguese obviously, but it's possible to convert it to english, if you want. It's derived from Knoppix Linux and it's a very good distro. This way, you can image your systems using only free tools. If you're interested, you can download it from <a target="_new" href="http://www.guiadohardware.net/index.php">http://www.guiadohardware.net/index.php</a> (the site is also in portuguese).
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<br>This said, I must warn you that I never tried Partition Image myself, as I'm a user of Ghost as said earlier.
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<br>And to finish this long post, I wih a Merry Christmas to you and all your readers.
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<br> Antonio
Antonio
Sunday, May 8, 2005 12:06:41 AM (Eastern Daylight Time, UTC-04:00)
Here are the links to download Kurumin Linux, the brazillian distro I mentioned earlier, if someone is interested:
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<br><a target="_new" href="ftp://ftp.las.ic.unicamp.br/pub/kurumin/3.31/kurumin-3.31.iso">ftp://ftp.las.ic.unicamp.br/pub/kurumin/3.31/kurumin-3.31.iso</a>
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<br><a target="_new" href="http://fisica.ufpr.br/kurumin/kurumin-3.31.iso">http://fisica.ufpr.br/kurumin/kurumin-3.31.iso</a>
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<br>This is the latest stable version.
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<br> Antonio
Antonio
Sunday, May 8, 2005 12:06:41 AM (Eastern Daylight Time, UTC-04:00)
Have you ever thought of a WinPE capture? We have gone away from Ghost based on pricing and now use WinPE with self written scripts to capture and distro images.
Rob
Wednesday, May 11, 2005 6:04:35 AM (Eastern Daylight Time, UTC-04:00)
one other thing about TrueImage when i demo'd it last year there was no way to set the network to FULL-FULL that was nasty for my enviroment and everythgin was slow. i went back to RIS/GHOST i do like the smart ability of TrueImage to pull out the swap file and such.
Wednesday, September 28, 2005 6:28:57 AM (Eastern Daylight Time, UTC-04:00)
You can purchase only home version of Acronis True Image and Acronis Snap Deploy (that must be installed on all machiens) and not use Acronis True Image Enterprise Server. This way you will be able...

Quote from Acronis Site:
http://www.acronis.com/enterprise/products/snapdeploy/standard-pc-configurations.html
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...to deploy software to new PCs and servers quickly and easily.

Key Features:

Management Console

Management Console — manage deployments from one central location
Disk image deployment

Disk image deployment — apply images to bare systems, including the operating system and all applications
Standard configurations

Standard configurations — use a standard configuration for a new PC or server and save time on future deployments
Configuration management tools

Configuration management tools — manage files, execute applications, and configure system settings
Multicasting

Multicasting — minimize deployment time by sending image simultaneously to multiple machines
Wizard-driven Graphical User Interface (GUI)

Wizard-driven Graphical User Interface (GUI) — makes product easy to use
Logs view

Logs view — troubleshoot deployment issues
Integration with Acronis True Image

Integration with Acronis True Image — use images created by Acronis True Image for deployment
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Hope this will help
Mark
Mark
Wednesday, September 28, 2005 1:52:01 PM (Eastern Daylight Time, UTC-04:00)
Cost of Snap Deploy ($17.99 / copy) with a MINIMUM of 25! $449.75..

Since I have just 5 Machines on my home network, this would not be cost effective at all.
Anil John
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